\documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{article} %\usepackage{times,mathptm} \newcommand{\action}[1]{\marginpar{\flushleft {\bf Action}: #1}} %\documentstyle[a4,11pt]{article} \headheight 0mm % No header text \headsep 0mm % No distance between header and body of text %\parindent 0mm % No paragraph indentation %\parskip 5mm % Size of gap between paragraphs \addtolength{\textheight}{1.0in} \textwidth 13.0cm \oddsidemargin 0.0cm \evensidemargin 0.0cm \begin{document} \begin{center} \large\bf MINUTES OF THE WORKING GROUP 2 MEETING OF CCP4 HELD AT YORK ON 5th JUNE 1996 \end{center}\vspace{5ex} \noindent{\it Present:} \noindent \begin{tabular}{@{}l@{\hspace*{2em}}l} \\ Phil Evans (Chairman) & MRC, Cambridge \\ Sue Bailey (Secretary) & Daresbury Laboratory \\ Don Akrigg & Leeds University \\ Peter Daly & ESRF Grenoble \\ Eleanor Dodson & York University \\ Mike Hartshorn & York University \\ Gideon Davies & York University \\ Tom Oldfield & MSI \\ David Wild & Salk Institute \\ %Cameron Dunn & Bristol University \\ Paul Emsley & Glasgow University \\ %Neil Isaacs & Glasgow University \\ Sheila Gover & Oxford University \\ Paul Holden & Bristol University \\ Peter Keller & Bath University \\ Adam Ralph & Daresbury Laboratory \\ Martyn Winn & Daresbury Laboratory \\ John Campbell & Daresbury Laboratory \\ %Sandra McLaughlin & Hamburg \\ %Simon Phillips & Leeds University \\ Jim Raftery & Manchester University \\ Peter Brick & Imperial College \\ Ian Tickle & Birkbeck College \\ %Jan Zelinka & York University \\ Kevin Cowtan & York University \\ Tom Flores & EBI \\ David Waller & Sheffield University \\ %Garib Murshudov & York University \\ Tadeusz Skarzynski (Industrial rep) & Glaxo \\ %Steve Yewdall & Edinburgh University \\ Ian Clifton & Oxford University \\ %Paul Hempstead & Sheffield University \\ Misha Isupov & Exeter University \\ %Paul Freemont & ICRF \\ %Andrew Hemmings & UEA \\ Gareth Lewis & Southampton \\ %Tim Higgins & Galway \end{tabular}\vspace{2ex} \noindent{\it Apologies: } Neil Isaacs, Simon Phillips, Jim Naismith, Steve Yewdall, Lindsay Sawyer \section{Demonstrations of GUIs - Session 1} \begin{enumerate} \item Mike Hartshorn (York) {\em Tcl/Tk interface to FFT} \\ A simple interface to FFT written in Tcl/Tk allowing control over input data and parameters. \item David Wild (Salk Institute, La Jolla) {\em AVS interface to CCP4} \\ Hierarchy of AVS networks to run standard CCP4 procedures. New version of AVS allows Motif-style interface. \item Martyn Winn (Daresbury) {\em DISguISE} \\ Inherited from CCP11 and partially adapted to CCP4. Simple interfaces to individual programs. \end{enumerate} \section{Minutes of the previous meeting and matters arising} The minutes of the meeting held on February 28th were accepted. David Waller asked when version~3.2 would be brought out. He was reassured that there were no plans for a new release, at least for several months. \section{ Study Weekend 97} Gideon reported on the progress of preparations for the next Study Weekend, and handed out a provisional timetable. The meeting will be held at York University and will be on the 3/4 January. After complaints that the subject matter was not `non-standard', the title has been changed to `Recent Advances in Phasing'. Phil stressed the need to begin with long and general introductory talks. Some further ideas for the meeting were to be gleaned from the MAD workshop being held in Grenoble. Phil is to invite Eric de la Fortelle to speak\action{Phil}. 500 rooms (70 en-suite) and a lecture theatre have been provisionally booked. York were waiting for confirmation, which should have been sent by the Daresbury conference office. Sue will chase this up\action{Sue}. The Daresbury conference office are to charge \pounds200 / day for 2 persons to organise the meeting. Sue was unhappy with the possible cost of the Daresbury conference office and wanted to tender for a better deal. She will set up a tendering exercise between Daresbury and York\action{Sue}. There was some debate on the 1998 Study Weekend. Friday/Saturday will fall on 2nd/3rd January which was considered to be too soon after the Christmas festivities. It would be better to postpone the meeting by a week, but this depends on when university terms start. Of the possible non-university locations, Chester is too small and the Lord Daresbury has inadequate facilities for the lectures. It was decided that the dates of term of possible university locations should be checked before making any decisions\action{Everyone}. \section{Venue and date of the next meeting} The next meeting was set for {\bf Wednesday 25th September} at Birkbeck College, starting \mbox{11--30~am}. \section{Any other business} David Waller suggested a survey of users via the Bulletin Board asking what systems were used, what supporting software users had, etc. The results would be of general interest, as well as answering specific questions, such as how widespread is the use of VMS or how many users have access to AVS. David agreed to set up the survey and colate the responses\action{David}. Paul Emsley requested that it be possible to set up several installations of CCP4 for different platforms using the same source code. This would require that {\tt configure} generate several makefiles, one for each installation of the libraries and executables. Sue said that while it was a nice idea, it was vital that such a change worked perfectly before it was released. Paul will help with the implementation of this\action{Paul,Adam, Peter D.}. Phil commented that the installation of the {\tt x-windows} programs was in a mess, and that this was a higher priority. The Daresbury staff have been waiting for a quiet moment to go over this\action{Martyn,Adam}. It was generally agreed that support for native {\tt make}s should be dropped, and that {\tt gmake} should be recommended. CCP4 should distribute {\tt gmake}, but GNU need to be consulted. Regarding help on obtaining data from the anonymous ftp site, those present were reminded that the README files (type {\tt ftp> get README |more}) sometimes contain useful information. The working group committee thanked Adam and Martyn for the hard work which ensured that the release of version 3 had gone very smoothly. \section{Demonstrations of GUIs - Session 2} \begin{enumerate} \item Tom Oldfield (MSI) {\em Scripts for creating dialogue boxes} \\ Dialogue boxes for preparing program input. Generated by simple script which can be edited as needed. \item Kevin Cowtan (York) {\em Xsight} \\ Quick demonstration of Xsight, part of the Insight II suite from MSI. \item Tom Flores (EBI) {\em DISguISE and JAVA} \\ Description of the concept behind DISguISE (later used by CCP11). Use of Java as a platform-independent language that can be used over a network. \item Mike Hartshorn (York) {\em Tcl/Tk} \\ General overview of interpreted language Tcl and the associated toolkit Tk. \item David Wild (Salk Institute, La Jolla) {\em AVS interface to CCP4} \\ Hierarchy of AVS networks to run standard CCP4 procedures. New version of AVS allows Motif-style interface. \item Paul Emsley (Glasgow) {\em ZLDB} \\ Review of ZLDB created by Jan Zelinka. GUI based on database structure. \end{enumerate} These presentations were followed by a general discussion on the requirements for a CCP4 GUI. A draft specification has been drawn up (see separate sheet). \vspace{2ex} \noindent ---Martyn Winn, Sue Bailey \end{document}